Comments for Anyway http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway meandering thoughts from Lauren Wood Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:04:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 Comment on The Perfect G&T by Planning for Thanksgiving Dinner http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2005/07/06/the-perfect-gt/#comment-31658 Planning for Thanksgiving Dinner Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:52:28 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=86#comment-31658 [...] DRINKS Whatever’s going, but a perfect G&T would be [...] [...] DRINKS Whatever’s going, but a perfect G&T would be [...]

]]> Comment on Dawn and Remembrance by William Loughborough http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/11/dawn-and-remembrance/#comment-31652 William Loughborough Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:05:27 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=406#comment-31652 An interesting sidenote from a member of the "greatest generation": as a child 11/11 was called "Armistice Day" and celebrated an end to war. It later became "Veterans' Day" and I still think that is part of the problem with us continuing to design/build cluster bombs, land mines, and warheads of all sorts. It seems to me to represent homage to war, rather than to peace and I hate it. Love. An interesting sidenote from a member of the “greatest generation”: as a child 11/11 was called “Armistice Day” and celebrated an end to war. It later became “Veterans’ Day” and I still think that is part of the problem with us continuing to design/build cluster bombs, land mines, and warheads of all sorts.

It seems to me to represent homage to war, rather than to peace and I hate it.

Love.

]]> Comment on Multi-location brainstorming by William Loughborough http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/12/multi-location-brainstorming/#comment-31651 William Loughborough Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:58:53 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=414#comment-31651 I tend to question the premise that there should be some sort of cyber-meet that replaces F2F. I've done a lot of teleconferences and essayed irc and its brethren. I've experienced crude video conferences and a bit of virtual reality, but on the whole there's just nothing like being *together* with all the accompanying touches/smells/off-mic/camera interactions. The bit rate of sensual connections is still several orders of magnitude greater than the best available (or even proposed?) technological systems. Until teleportation is widely available, there is simply no substitute, even conceptually, for *being there*. I suppose the ultimate metaphor is "phone sex" - does anyone seriously think it qualifies as an alt-attribute for the real thing? I still clearly remember when I was in the "Chet Baker Room" in Amsterdam and Dave Pawson knocked on my door and said "hi". And being in the Great Hall of the People in Beijing questioning Tim after his address. And... Let's look for ways to get together and just skip simulating real experience. Love. I tend to question the premise that there should be some sort of cyber-meet that replaces F2F.

I’ve done a lot of teleconferences and essayed irc and its brethren. I’ve experienced crude video conferences and a bit of virtual reality, but on the whole there’s just nothing like being *together* with all the accompanying touches/smells/off-mic/camera interactions.

The bit rate of sensual connections is still several orders of magnitude greater than the best available (or even proposed?) technological systems.

Until teleportation is widely available, there is simply no substitute, even conceptually, for *being there*. I suppose the ultimate metaphor is “phone sex” - does anyone seriously think it qualifies as an alt-attribute for the real thing?

I still clearly remember when I was in the “Chet Baker Room” in Amsterdam and Dave Pawson knocked on my door and said “hi”. And being in the Great Hall of the People in Beijing questioning Tim after his address. And…

Let’s look for ways to get together and just skip simulating real experience.

Love.

]]> Comment on Multi-location brainstorming by Dave Pawson http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/12/multi-location-brainstorming/#comment-31638 Dave Pawson Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:08:52 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=414#comment-31638 Long time back we used what's effectively a 'shared' notebook on screen. This to capture and build on ideas presented? Backed by IRC or telcon/ for more general chat, that could work Lauren. That app was Windows based, unsure if Linux / Sun have something similar. HTH DaveP Long time back we used what’s effectively a ’shared’ notebook on screen. This to capture and build on ideas presented? Backed by IRC or telcon/ for more general chat, that could work Lauren.

That app was Windows based, unsure if Linux / Sun have something similar.

HTH

DaveP

]]> Comment on Multi-location brainstorming by tw3k http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/12/multi-location-brainstorming/#comment-31637 tw3k Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:55:31 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=414#comment-31637 yeah, irc. More of a working in an office together feel than whiteboard/brainstorming but, i guess, it's all in how you use it. yeah, irc.

More of a working in an office together feel than whiteboard/brainstorming but, i guess, it’s all in how you use it.

]]> Comment on Multi-location brainstorming by John Cowan http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/12/multi-location-brainstorming/#comment-31635 John Cowan Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:43:36 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=414#comment-31635 IRC has its virtues, and it's very easy to run a private IRC daemon on an intranet. I've heard good things about InspIRCd and UnrealIRCd in this application. Maybe Sun already has an ircd somewhere -- ask around. Here at Collaboration R Us, we sometimes use a Google Doc (on the inside network) as a whiteboard, though there is a lot of irritating pressing of Save and reloading the page when the default autosave and refresh are too slow, as they generally are. I've even used this outside Google to help with a phone call. IRC has its virtues, and it’s very easy to run a private IRC daemon on an intranet. I’ve heard good things about InspIRCd and UnrealIRCd in this application. Maybe Sun already has an ircd somewhere — ask around.

Here at Collaboration R Us, we sometimes use a Google Doc (on the inside network) as a whiteboard, though there is a lot of irritating pressing of Save and reloading the page when the default autosave and refresh are too slow, as they generally are. I’ve even used this outside Google to help with a phone call.

]]> Comment on Dawn and Remembrance by John Cowan http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/11/dawn-and-remembrance/#comment-31634 John Cowan Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:32:46 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=406#comment-31634 Sure, and it depends on whether you are Maori or Paheka, and (like St. Patrick's Day) whether you are at home or abroad. But in any case there are public rituals performed that have emotional content. Sure, and it depends on whether you are Maori or Paheka, and (like St. Patrick’s Day) whether you are at home or abroad. But in any case there are public rituals performed that have emotional content.

]]> Comment on EWF 2008 by John Cowan http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/12/ewf-2008/#comment-31633 John Cowan Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:31:03 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=410#comment-31633 "I don't want to join a club that would have me as a member." --Groucho “I don’t want to join a club that would have me as a member.” –Groucho

]]> Comment on Dawn and Remembrance by Lauren Wood http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/11/dawn-and-remembrance/#comment-31629 Lauren Wood Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:39:06 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=406#comment-31629 It's different, because Waitangi Day has different emotional connotations (Wikipedia has a reasonable summary of some of the issues). It’s different, because Waitangi Day has different emotional connotations (Wikipedia has a reasonable summary of some of the issues).

]]> Comment on Dawn and Remembrance by John Cowan http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/2008/11/11/dawn-and-remembrance/#comment-31628 John Cowan Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:30:54 +0000 http://www.laurenwood.org/anyway/?p=406#comment-31628 What, messing about with flagpoles on 6 February doesn't count as an emotional public ritual? What, messing about with flagpoles on 6 February doesn’t count as an emotional public ritual?

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