{"id":211,"date":"2007-06-14T21:18:46","date_gmt":"2007-06-15T04:18:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/archives\/2007\/06\/14\/tech-women\/"},"modified":"2007-06-14T21:18:46","modified_gmt":"2007-06-15T04:18:46","slug":"tech-women","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/2007\/06\/tech-women\/","title":{"rendered":"Tech Women"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tim poin\u00adted me at the art\u00adicle on devchix about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.devchix.com\/2007\/06\/09\/let%e2%80%99s-all-evolve-past-this-the-barriers-women-face-in-tech-communities\/\">bar\u00adri\u00aders women face in tech com\u00admunit\u00adies<\/a>; it\u2019s cer\u00adtainly sparked a lot of interest and reac\u00adtions out&nbsp;there.<\/p>\n<p>My reac\u00adtion was two-fold: one was to think \u201cis that how most women are?\u201d To under\u00adstand that, you have to remem\u00adber that I\u2019ve spent my entire life past the age of 17 in groups that were pre\u00addom\u00adin\u00adantly male, first in phys\u00adics, and then in com\u00adputers. I\u2019ve often dis\u00adcovered that I look at things one way and some woman I talk to about it will see it quite dif\u00adfer\u00adently. So until I read some reac\u00adtions to this art\u00adicle, I thought maybe it explained some\u00adthing about the way women-only groups work that I did\u00adn\u2019t know about, since I\u2019m not actu\u00adally in any (even the book\u00adclub I\u2019m in is has men and would\u00adn\u2019t feel right to me if it did\u00adn\u2019t; the only groups I\u2019ve been in recently that were only women were knit\u00adting classes and those only last a short&nbsp;time).<\/p>\n<p>The second reac\u00adtion was that she makes some fairly strong state\u00adments that are test\u00adable (there\u2019s that phys\u00adics back\u00adground com\u00ading&nbsp;out):&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I have exper\u00adi\u00admented with this myself using a male pseud\u00adonym to post art\u00adicles, and being told that the art\u00adicles are inform\u00adat\u00adive, use\u00adful, great. Six months later I repub\u00adlish the exact same art\u00adicle, using a dif\u00adfer\u00adent title and a female pseud\u00adonym, and sud\u00addenly the art\u00adicle is hor\u00adrible, tech\u00adnic\u00adally incor\u00adrect, use\u00adless. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a fas\u00adcin\u00adat\u00ading&nbsp;study.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It\u2019s actu\u00adally a hard thing to test. Many people pub\u00adlish art\u00adicles on their blogs, so they can\u00ad\u2019t sud\u00addenly change their name and gender for that; where else do people pub\u00adlish these days? How much of pub\u00adlish\u00ading inform\u00ada\u00adtion is about repu\u00adta\u00adtion, where the read\u00aders say the per\u00adson has been right about oth\u00ader things in the past, prob\u00adably is about this as well? That also does\u00adn\u2019t enable switch\u00ading iden\u00adtit\u00adies read\u00adily. I would like to see some actu\u00adal data and test\u00ading of the pro\u00adpos\u00adi\u00adtion, and not just from one person.<\/p>\n<p>Shel\u00adley wrote up <a href=\"http:\/\/burningbird.net\/diversity\/speak-softly\/\">her reac\u00adtion<\/a>;  read both the art\u00adicles as well as some of the com\u00adments and links for a fuller view. [At first I wrote \u201cbal\u00adanced view\u201d, but until we know more about the issues, who\u2019s to say where the centre (and there\u00adfore the bal\u00adance point) is?]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tim poin\u00adted me at the art\u00adicle on devchix about bar\u00adri\u00aders women face in tech com\u00admunit\u00adies; it\u2019s cer\u00adtainly sparked a lot of interest and reac\u00adtions out&nbsp;there. My reac\u00adtion was two-fold: one was to think \u201cis that how most women are?\u201d To under\u00adstand that, you have to remem\u00adber that I\u2019ve spent my entire life past the age \u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/2007\/06\/tech-women\/\" class=\"more-link\">Con\u00adtin\u00adue read\u00ading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> \u201cTech&nbsp;Women\u201d<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":3,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-211","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/211","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=211"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/211\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=211"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=211"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=211"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}