{"id":77,"date":"2005-05-16T14:49:30","date_gmt":"2005-05-16T22:49:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/?p=77"},"modified":"2005-05-16T14:53:25","modified_gmt":"2005-05-16T22:53:25","slug":"friday-the-13th","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/2005\/05\/friday-the-13th\/","title":{"rendered":"Friday the&nbsp;13th"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I spent a cer\u00adtain pro\u00adpor\u00adtion of Fri\u00adday morn\u00ading watch\u00ading <a href=\"http:\/\/wcdata.sun.com\/webcast\/archives\/VIP-2050\/\">the web\u00adcast<\/a> of the Scott and Steve show \u2014 the update of the col\u00adlab\u00ador\u00ada\u00adtion work that Microsoft and Sun star\u00adted a year ago. Lots of oth\u00ader people have blogged about what was shown and the implic\u00ada\u00adtions (try <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tbray.org\/ongoing\/When\/200x\/2005\/05\/15\/WS-Federation\">Tim<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.xmlgrrl.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/05\/15\/kum-bay-yah\/\">Eve<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.sun.com\/superpat\/entry\/sun_microsoft_press_conference\">Pat<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.sun.com\/racingsnake\/entry\/sun_microsoft_interop_and_the\">Robin<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.sun.com\/Gregp\/entry\/one_year_later\">Greg<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.sun.com\/jonathan\/entry\/welcome_to_the_blogosphere\">Jonath\u00adan<\/a> for some dif\u00adfer\u00ading Sun views; <a href=\"http:\/\/news.com.com\/Sun%2C+Microsoft+tout+fruits+of+cooperation\/2100-1022_3-5706750.html\"><span class=\"caps\">CNET<\/span><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2005\/05\/13\/_ballmer_mcnealy\/\">The Register<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/it.slashdot.org\/article.pl?sid=05\/05\/15\/1531259&amp;tid=126&amp;tid=102&amp;tid=109&amp;tid=218\">Slash\u00addot<\/a> for some out\u00adside-Sun views).<\/p>\n<p>I had a spe\u00adcial interest in watch\u00ading the demo (starts at 17:19) as I did the <acronym title=\"Cascading Style Sheets\"><span class=\"caps\">CSS<\/span><\/acronym> for the Sun part. What happened was, I\u2019m new to all this iden\u00adtity man\u00adage\u00adment stuff, and asked wheth\u00ader I could help in pre\u00adpar\u00ading the demo for the <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.sun.com\/superpat\/entry\/live_from_dublin_at_the\">eGov for\u00adum<\/a> at the Liberty Alli\u00adance meet\u00ading in Dub\u00adlin in April, in part to help me try to get the con\u00adcepts straight. Pat said the inter\u00adface to the demo could do with some work; I took a <span class=\"caps\">CSS<\/span> that I\u2019d done for my blog (really must move it into <span class=\"caps\">WP<\/span> 1.5 format some time to reuse it!), spiffed it up a bit, and voila! a <span class=\"caps\">CSS<\/span> cus\u00adtom-built for iden\u00adtity man\u00adage\u00adment demos. So it made sense for me to con\u00adtin\u00adue spiff\u00ading up the demos for this press event. Unfor\u00adtu\u00adnately you only see about 2 seconds of the actu\u00adal demo on the web\u00adcast and it\u2019s pretty blurry (the web\u00adcast shows more of the demo presenters than the demo they were present\u00ading), but Pat assures me it looked great on the big screens in real&nbsp;life.<\/p>\n<p>I took what I\u2019d done for the eGov for\u00adum, made some changes to make sure it would work on <span class=\"caps\">IE<\/span> 6 on Win\u00addows <span class=\"caps\">XP<\/span> as well as the <acronym title=\"Java Desktop System\"><span class=\"caps\">JDS<\/span><\/acronym> browser on Sol\u00adar\u00adis (which, being basic\u00adally Moz\u00adilla, does\u00adn\u2019t have the <span class=\"caps\">CSS<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.msdn.com\/ie\/archive\/2005\/04\/22\/410963.aspx\">\u201cincon\u00adsist\u00aden\u00adcies\u201d<\/a> that <span class=\"caps\">IE<\/span> 6 has) and then pinched the col\u00adours from the new Sun brand\u00ading. Pat sug\u00adges\u00adted using some of the Sun images to add some piza\u00adzz to the site, while Tim made the fake com\u00adpany&nbsp;logos.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Joint demo devel\u00adop\u00adment takes a lot of coordin\u00ada\u00adtion. We dis\u00adcussed small things like which logos we should show (we settled on Sun + Sol\u00adar\u00adis \/ Microsoft + Win\u00addows) as well as big things like the pre\u00adcise script that would be used, which defined how many links should be act\u00adive, and how many dif\u00adfer\u00adent web pages each com\u00adpany needed to pre\u00adpare, which determ\u00adined how much cod\u00ading needed to be done. And a bunch of oth\u00ader stuff, of course. We had daily phone calls with\u00adin the Sun demo team, and daily phone calls with the Microsoft demo team, just to nail down all those little details.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, we got there, the demo looked good and worked, and, I hope, made sense to people. Spiffy <span class=\"caps\">CSS<\/span> or fancy images aren\u2019t much use if people don\u2019t get what\u2019s being demon\u00adstrated. The write-ups I\u2019ve seen indic\u00adate that they&nbsp;did.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I spent a cer\u00adtain pro\u00adpor\u00adtion of Fri\u00adday morn\u00ading watch\u00ading the web\u00adcast of the Scott and Steve show \u2014 the update of the col\u00adlab\u00ador\u00ada\u00adtion work that Microsoft and Sun star\u00adted a year ago. Lots of oth\u00ader people have blogged about what was shown and the implic\u00ada\u00adtions (try Tim, Eve, Pat, Robin, Greg and Jonath\u00adan for some \u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/2005\/05\/friday-the-13th\/\" class=\"more-link\">Con\u00adtin\u00adue read\u00ading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> \u201cFri\u00adday the&nbsp;13th\u201d<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":3,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[5,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-77","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-standards","category-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=77"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":814,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77\/revisions\/814"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=77"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=77"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.laurenwood.org\/anyway\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=77"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}