Nov 152006
 

I see Dave Shea has been explain­ing why he does­n’t typ­ic­ally order goods online; I’ve ordered lots of goods online and had mixed exper­i­ences. I usu­ally only buy online if 1) I can­’t find what I’m look­ing for loc­ally, or 2) it’s sub­stan­tially cheap­er than buy­ing loc­ally. I also make sure of war­ranty implic­a­tions for any­thing I buy that might need one (e.g., my Tung­sten).

I tend to give the nod to Cana­dian retail­ers because of the hassles Dave talks about and also because I like to sup­port loc­al or semi-loc­al small busi­nesses (although I have bought enough at Amazon that the reg­u­lar “you might be inter­ested in” emails give a remark­ably con­son­ant view into my cur­rent interests). I buy books at Amazon.com if I’m not in a hurry to get them and if they’re cheap­er, includ­ing ship­ping, than buy­ing the same books loc­ally. This is often the case right now since books have the price prin­ted on the back, and the Cana­dian dol­lar is cur­rently worth quite a lot more com­pared to the US dol­lar than when lots of the books were printed. 

Although I haven’t had any­thing shipped by them for some time, I agree with Derek Miller, who advises avoid­ing UPS if at all pos­sible; I’ve found UPS in the past to be very quick to charge double fees if two boxes in the same ship­ment are labelled with the total (they charge as if each box had the total value). What I do to try to get around that prob­lem is to either call or email the place I’m order­ing from if I think there’s a chance they might put things into more than one box, and dis­cuss the issue with them. The res­ult is that I haven’t had that par­tic­u­lar prob­lem for a few years now. Com­pan­ies that don’t answer the phone or email don’t get my custom.

Recent exper­i­ences that I’ve had with order­ing from out­side Canada:

  • books from a couple of small retail­ers in the US com­ing via Canada Post: no extra charges
  • two baby slings hand-made by a small retail­er in the US com­ing via Canada Post: no extra charges
  • quite a few books from Amazon.de com­ing through Canada Post: charged GST and asso­ci­ated oth­er fees about half the time
  • books from Amazon.com com­ing via Canada Post: occa­sion­ally charged GST etc. If you request pri­or­ity ship­ping, Amazon col­lects an Import Fees Depos­it to cov­er the vari­ous charges (I guess to save time in delivery)
  • buy­ing a humid­i­fi­er from Venta Air­wash­er: this is a longer story. I called up to order rather than using the web­site, to dis­cuss the deliv­ery issues. They charged me GST and when I said I found that odd since they’re a US store, they assured me everything would be fine. And to call back and let them know if it was­n’t. Sure enough, the humid­i­fi­er (great humid­i­fi­er, BTW) showed up with no extra charges and I was pleas­antly sur­prised. Until the bill from Fed­ex arrived in the mail a week later. I called the com­pany, com­plained, they said they’d take care of it, I called Fed­ex to tell them what was hap­pen­ing, did­n’t pay the bill, and haven’t heard any­thing in the year since, so I assume Venta did take care of it.

In the unex­pec­ted-but-in-the-end-ok cat­egory: I ordered a DVD from BBC Canada, and was charged the nor­mal GST etc. The prob­lem here was that they shipped the DVD from the US, and Canada Post promptly charged me $12 for GST, duties, etc., des­pite the envel­ope hav­ing a “GST paid” stamp on it. I called BBC Canada to com­plain and they cred­ited my cred­it card with the $12. I hope they got the money back from Rev­en­ue Canada; at least I did­n’t have to pay.

  15 Responses to “Shipping to Canada”

  1. Why is it that Amazon.com will not ship any oth­er products oth­er than books.…Their prices are much cheap­er even with the shippping added

  2. I don’t know why Amazon has so many lim­its on what can be sent to Canada. Maybe some man­u­fac­tur­ers won’t let them, so they can try to get more money out of us? Just a thought.

  3. Hey there — great info!
    I stumbled across your web­site because I found a DVD set I want that’s $300 at Amazon.ca and $150 at Amazon.com.

    I have no clue how cus­toms deals with stuff from Amazon.com but it cer­tainly seems like it’s worth doing.

    It looks like you’ve only had your stuff from them checked about 1/2 the time — I’ve also heard warn­ings about UPS. Does Amazon.com ever use them?
    Over­all has it been worth your while to use .com instead of.ca?

    thanks again,
    Davi

  4. I believe Amazon always uses USPS/Canada Post, but I don’t use the express ser­vice so I don’t know what they use for that. Canada Post charges a $5 hand­ling fee if they do charge you the GST and duties. So if you add up the extra ship­ping charge and the hand­ling fee (bear­ing in mind that Amazon.ca will charge you the GST any­way), then you can see if it’s worth it even if you do pay the duties. If the stuff comes from the US then it should be covered under NAFTA, thus the duties will be min­im­al, in which case it’s prob­ably worth get­ting the set from Amazon.com rather than Amazon.ca. It’s prob­ably also worth check­ing oth­er options though, just in case, such as Future Shop, or Chapters/Indigo, in case they’re cheap­er again. Over­all I typ­ic­ally use Amazon.com, but that’s also because they have a dif­fer­ent selec­tion to Amazon.ca and often the books I want are 24-hour order from .com but 4–6 weeks from .ca (no idea why). HTH.

  5. I’m in the same pos­i­tion as Dav­id — Amazon.com has some excep­tion­ally good DVD deals right now, and noth­ing in Canada comes close to match­ing. I came across this post while search­ing for inform­a­tion on what ship­ping meth­ods Amazon.com ACTUALLY uses and wheth­er or not I’ll get hit with a ridicu­lous broker­age fee. Remark­ably, this post was just about all I found; people haven’t talked about it much, which I sup­pose is a good sign.

    I heard recently (from a Cana­dian friend who hap­pens to now work at Amazon.com in Seattle on their soft­ware) that the reas­on Amazon.ca is so sep­ar­ate from .com is because book­stores are a pro­tec­ted busi­ness in Canada. Here’s the (first google hit giv­ing) details: In a cul­tur­al-pro­tec­tion effort, the fed­er­al gov­ern­ment placed (in 1985) fairly strong lim­it­a­tions on the allow­able level of for­eign invest­ment in book­stores oper­at­ing in Canada.

    This forces Amazon.ca to oper­ate as some­thing of a fran­chisee of .com, rather than a major­ity-owned sub­si­di­ary as you might expect. That’s why it’s appear­ance and fea­tures seem to lag a bit behind oth­er Amazons, and why you have to cre­ate a sep­ar­ate user account for .ca, while the same account auto­mat­ic­ally works at both .com, .co.uk, and (prob­ably) most others.

    Still, this does­n’t quite explain why Amazon.com is not willing/able to ship things like toys and house­hold goods to Canada, or why .ca has not expan­ded into those areas, either. It prob­ably has some­thing to do with the cus­toms hassle and ship­ping costs mak­ing it not worthwhile.

  6. thats strange that the prices would be sig­ni­fic­antly dif­fer­ent for .ca and .com amazon sites giv­en that they are the same com­pany. A sim­il­ar trend exist in europe where you will pay about 400 pounds for video games that cost $400 in the USA… evn though their cur­rency is a lot stronger than ours

  7. About buy­ing from Amazon into Canada and why they are so tough…

    Well, it’s def­in­itely not to get more money out of Canucks, that is for sure. The truth is that as a U.S. busi­ness we find it very, very dif­fi­cult to ship to Canada quite simply because not all of our products are made in the U.S. For example, when we ship a “Made in China” product to Canada, our cus­tom­ers have to pay the import­a­tion duties asso­ci­ated with Chinese products in the har­mon­iz­a­tion cat­egory under which the product falls. Most of our Cana­dian cus­tom­ers refused to pay this and we ulti­mately had to bear the burden…always elim­in­at­ing any gross mar­gin we real­ized as part of the sale.

    Thus Amazon and most U.S. com­pan­ies selling products made abroad will not ship to Canada — even though we love Cana­dians so much!

    Cheers,
    TA

  8. I think that they put lim­it­a­tions on amazon.ca because they don’t want to take away the poten­tial sales rev­en­ue from their US based stores. Lets face it people I know I would­n’t be order­ing from amazon.com if I knew I could be get­ting my elec­tron­ics shipped from next door not cross country.

  9. I have a book ready for pub­lish­ing. I live in Canada. Are there any good reas­ons I should choose a Cana­dian pub­lish­er over a US based publisher?

  10. Not dir­ectly related to the sub­ject of your post, but a google search lead me here, so I figured I’d ask becuase I am at my wit’s end -

    Where do you get your Venta clean­ing solu­tion and addit­ive? The US dis­trib­ut­or appar­ently does not ship to Canada any­more (I’m quite sure they used to), there is no Cana­dian dis­trib­ut­or, and I am hav­ing a hor­rible time even find­ing Cana­dian retail­ers any­more! The last time I checked, a couple months ago, there were a hand­ful of retail­ers in the Great­er Toronto Area who car­ried the addit­ive, but not the clean­ing solu­tion, and I can­’t even find them any­more! My poor (and damn expens­ive) Air­wash­er is now sit­ting there, empty and off, des­per­ately beg­ging for a clean­ing … there’s actu­ally a little mold or some­thing grow­ing in it now between the fins, so I don’t even want to oper­ate it until I can give it a prop­er clean­ing in case the mold (or whatever it is) is end­ing up in the air 🙁

    Any help or point­ers would be GREATLY appreciated!

    • I wash everything that isn’t the motor in the dish­wash­er at the end of the sea­son and when it looks like it needs it. Add in a bit of scrub­bing between the “fins” while it’s still damp from the dish­wash­er and it usu­ally comes out look­ing clean. I found using the clean­er did­n’t make it any clean­er than the dish­wash­er when I tried both one time.

      When I needed a new motor a few months back, I called the US dis­trib­ut­or’s cus­tom­er ser­vice and they sent it to me, so that’s an option. Also, while in Saskat­chewan last winter, I noticed a Home Hard­ware store had a Venta Air­wash­er on the shelves, and it’s still in their cata­logue, so that might be anoth­er option if you have one close to you.

  11. Thanks so much! I nev­er even thought to throw it all in the dish­wash­er! I will give that a try this week!

  12. Thanks so much for the advice! The air­wash­er came out clean as could be, albeit with a couple of the drum discs a wee bit warped — Note to any­one else see­ing this idea for the first time and think­ing to try it — Turn off ‘heat dry’ (I think I might have, can­’t recall, it’s was a while ago) and do not sit the drums on the little peg/post things that hold the plates up and such — take them out or put them down if you can, or if needed, take the drums off the handle/holder thing (be care­ful doing that though, I snapped two of the 8 hold­er pegs when I did it :() and put them in sep­ar­ately … oth­er than that though it worked per­fectly! And Home Hard­ware does indeed carry the addit­ive … if your loc­al store does­n’t have it in stock just ask and they can order it. Thanks Lauren!! 🙂

  13. I would like to know why we Cana­dians can­not get free ship­ping & hand­ling costs as is offered to Amer­ic­ans? What happened to free Trade (NAFTA)? I find it quite irrit­at­ing to want to buy a product(s) only to find out when order­ing that ship­ping & hand­ling costs equal 40% 0r more of the products I wish to pur­chase. Need­less to say I won’t order any products that come with too high S & H costs. A pity because oth­er­wise I would cer­tainly shop more often with Amazon. Please respond if can in some way rem­edy this situation.

  14. http://webuyitforyou.com will ship what you want to Canada.

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